Bleach 382

[NocheDelSol]

Out a bit earlier than usual this week.

Overall, way too similar to the last chapter--Unohana endorsing Ichigo's godmodding strength, Kenpachi being Kenpachi, and Yammy cussing them all out. As far as transitional chapters go, it was all right, but it was basically redundant. The next release will probably shoot over for a while to the Byakuya/Kenny/Yammy battle, which should, in all honesty, have been over a long time ago. It'll probably take a fairly considerable time for Unohana to fully heal Ichigo, as his reiatsu is so depleted at this point, so it would be illogical to swap back to the fake Karakura.

Yes comments? No comments? Shut-up-Noche comments?

[CapnKensei]

Ichigo must have a crazy amount of reiatsu if his reiatsu matches a captain's and his isn't even halfway full.
Yammy turned out to be a major disappointment. Kenpachi alone owned the guy up; he had a harder time fighting Nnoitra than this fool. :p
Note: Bleach is on break next week, but One Piece returns!!! :D

[NocheDelSol]

Yammy was a total pushover. Supposedly the strongest Espada...and he got his ass handed to him by Kenpachi within five minutes. >_>

I was honestly expecting a lot more. At least the Nnoitra fight was reasonably interesting.

[CapnKensei]

Yups. Stark for the winnn. :D

What's with all this Kenpachi vs Byakuya?
First in the anime and now this? :(
Where's the originality??

I say we hurry up and get back to Karakura Town.
We haven't seen Kensei's bankai in action yet. ;)

[Hyonimaru]

Ichigo must have a crazy amount of reiatsu if his reiatsu matches a captain's and his isn't even halfway full.
Yammy turned out to be a major disappointment. Kenpachi alone owned the guy up; he had a harder time fighting Nnoitra than this fool. :p
Note: Bleach is on break next week, but One Piece returns!!! :D

He's been at captains level reiatsu. It seems like they are implying that his reiatsu is 2x Greater.

[Hellcats666]

If you think about it, Ichigo is in Bankai, which generally increases a shinigami's power by about 6x-10x. The fact he only has 2x a captains spirit energy while in Bankai tells us how weak he is in base form. lol

[Karma]

His a complete weakling in base form. Barely can even Flashstep :D. And Yammy was a disappointment.. Well, to be honest, no Espada had his strength anywhere near to it's actual rank (expect Aaroniero..). Even Aizen stated that on Halibel, thinking of her as the strongest of 3 of them.

[NocheDelSol]

Ichigo is a joke, and they can't even keep his strength consistent. At the beginning of the series, he's supposedly a ridiculouly powerful prodigy. Enter Renji/Byakuya. Ichigo now officially sucks.

And, then, Ichigo defeats Byakuya...in full Bankai, complete with Hollow mask. Then Aizen destroys him without resorting to Shikai. As the series progresses, Ichigo suddenly jumps in relative power and then encounters an enemy that makes him look like utter crap. If he's only at captain level in full Bankai, even though it's half of his reiatsu, it's a complete contradiction to the rest of the series. Also, the Arrancar are supposedly stronger than captains, and yet we have Rukia beating up Aaroniero.

Inconsistencies. Gaaaaaah.

Yups. Stark for the winnn.

Definitely. Though, he did get utterly beaten by Kyoraku, even under release. More inconsistencies, especially given that he's the second (?) strongest Espada and Kyoraku's a captain. If they followed the original statement that Arrancar, let alone Espada, are above captain level, the fight would have gone far differently. I was expecting Kyoraku and Ukitake to have to tag-team him with Bankai. >_>

[Karma]

Actually, Ichigo's strength consistent is logical. The power of his inner hollow constantly grows as we've seen, as well as the empowering of his mask improves.

Aaroniero was only a Menos-class Arrancar. Only the fact that he had consumed around ~33 000 different Hollows granted him the place on the Espada list. I'd say that it would of been cool when Aizen would of let Aaroniero consume all the Espada (inc. Wonderweiss). Oh no.. Rukia would still win by stabbing his head.

[NocheDelSol]

So, you mean that Ichigo himself is not improving, but his hollow is?

[Hellcats666]

So, you mean that Ichigo himself is not improving, but his hollow is?

Well look at how weak he is without Bankai or his mask. He probably couldn't beat a vice captain without Bankai at this point. He just seems to be getting weaker by the chapter.

[NocheDelSol]

He just seems to be getting weaker by the chapter.

That's what I meant by inconsistent. He's obscenely powerful one chapter, and a few later he's lying dead on the ground.

Though, he did beat Renji without Bankai, and he took out Shikai-ing Isane, Omaeda, and Chojiro with a punch...so, he's technically above vice-captain level, even considering that Zangetsu is constant-release.

[Hellcats666]

That's what I meant by inconsistent. He's obscenely powerful one chapter, and a few later he's lying dead on the ground.

Though, he did beat Renji without Bankai, and he took out Shikai-ing Isane, Omaeda, and Chojiro with a punch...so, he's technically above vice-captain level, even considering that Zangetsu is constant-release.

Technically Zangetsu grants him around 1.5-2x the usual power do to shikai, either way its not like those 3 lieutenants had a chance because he was already equal to around a captain in his shikai. Frankly the only reason he did so well against Byakuya was because Kubo gave him a Bankai that countered Byakuya, same way he gave Soifon a Bankai to counter Barragan. Its rather sad.

[NocheDelSol]

If his shikai was 2x greater than a sealed sword, and he was at captain level then, his Bankai should have made him five to ten times stronger than a captain, just like any normal captain. It's logical that under that circumstance he beat Byakuya. However, he would never have beaten Byakuya without the help of his hollow, so, if Byakuya's Bankai increases his power 10x, Ichigo's un-hollowfied Bankai simply can't. Byakuya was stronger than Ichigo at that time, though Ichigo has probably surpassed him by now.

Such is the way of shonen manga. The farther the series progresses, the more exponentially powerful the enemies become...

[Hellcats666]

If his shikai was 2x greater than a sealed sword, and he was at captain level then, his Bankai should have made him five to ten times stronger than a captain, just like any normal captain. It's logical that under that circumstance he beat Byakuya. However, he would never have beaten Byakuya without the help of his hollow, so, if Byakuya's Bankai increases his power 10x, Ichigo's un-hollowfied Bankai simply can't. Byakuya was stronger than Ichigo at that time, though Ichigo has probably surpassed him by now.

Such is the way of shonen manga. The farther the series progresses, the more exponentially powerful the enemies become...

Reason he didn't become so absurdly powerful at the time was because he had only learned Bankai like, what, 3 hours prior? I mean even Renji had more time with his Bankai and Byakuya stated very clearly that it wasn't even close to captain level. Same issue with Ikkaku.

[NocheDelSol]

>_< ...I completely overlooked that. Ignore what I had said, then.

[Aquarius1994]

I find it a little ironic how Yammy is supposedly the most powerful espada and yet he's putting up even less of a fight han the other 9 before him. LOL I was half expecting Kenpachi and Byakuya to have a tough time with him but it seems more like a game of "Who can humiliate Yammy the most" between the two of them rather than an actual fight with the so called 0 Espada

[NocheDelSol]

Yammy's probably bluffing, or else he would have done far more damage by now.